Silhouetted team members raise mugs in a dim office under a black skull-and-crossbones flag, a painting of a tall ship on the wall.

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Steve Jobs

It's more fun to be a pirate than to join the navy.

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It sets out the Mac team's self-image: a small band of outsiders against the corporate navy of the Apple that paid them. Jobs wanted the group to keep a rebellious edge as it grew. The line outlived the project and became a founder's slogan, quoted whenever a start-up wants to flatter itself as the underdog. Two wordings exist, 'more fun' and 'better', and sources disagree on which Jobs said and when.

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The saying comes from the Macintosh team's off-site retreats. Andy Hertzfeld says Jobs offered it in January 1983 at Carmel, in the form "It's better to be a pirate than join the navy", to keep the growing Mac group from going bureaucratic; the team later hoisted a pirate flag over its new building. John Sculley's memoir Odyssey gives the line as "more fun" and, per Wikiquote, dates the retreat to September 1982, at page 157.

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